Quote Originally Posted by Counts View Post
Look I can only look at what you yourself have posted in the past in order to push your view (And it does come off to me at least no different than a regular church goer telling me i need to get saved)

I THINK it can be safely assumed that you do not "KNOW the actions and choices" of all or even most of the Christian people in SWVA because in all honestly that very idea is laughable so YOU make a blanket JUDGMENT of them based on your pre-conseved ideas and that is a VERY human thing to do I think everyone to some extent trys to rationalize the world to fit with what they believe to be true but you can never truly grow as a person till you can see these things from several points of view because when you do that you realize that there are very few 100% right or wrong issues in the world and that the truth is somewhere in between a vast majority of the time.

If you truly do not believe in a god I can understand that you see the religious majority in our area as a a silly bunch of Dogma following sheep that can be used as fodder for those who crave power and are willing to exploit those people........But until you can understand that Someone who is tring to follow the Christian teaching has a need to share there faith with others (Which will bug you as much as them hearing your beliefs in no god will bug them) you will never fully be able to understand the situation.

Well look at the whole quote is all I'm saying.


Where did I ever say all? Nothing I have said applies to all, I never said it's all Christians, when I give my opinion of them it's generally speaking...if it came off as all, that's not what I meant, it's in general. I'm not telling anyone to believe what I do, I don't care really, I'd rather they actually look at their religion and other religions..then question, but I don't care if anyone believes in God or not.


And again, I'm not talking about everyone. Nothing I've said was for everyone, it's for most that I've met or know, it's a lot of people...but of course not close to everyone. I'll repeat, it's generally speaking.


I was in church and around Christians(well still am) most of my life , I know the difference in "letting someone know about God"(which is sometimes a nice way of trying to shove it down peoples throats) and actually forcing their views on others. They need to stop assuming that the reason why people don't believe in their religion isn't because they don't know about it, when most of the time, it's why they know so much about it is why they don't believe it. People don't want to be "saved", they aren't doing anyone a favor and in actuality push more people away from it then bringing them in...and that's not just my opinion.


Quote Originally Posted by Gotch View Post

No they wouldn't say something "stupid" like that and 3 times in fifty years would probably not warrant a warning of "a history of vandalism" BUT given the number of churches in the U.S. it still averages out to my estimate.

I think you are spitting into the wind with trying to convince anyone on here that your previous posts have done anything but make it clear that you hate Christians and Christianity.


NOW, to the real issue. The point of your original post. Are you now ready to admit that you were wrong? The point of your post was that if a vandalism such as took place in North Carolina involving an atheist sign and as reported by a WORLDWIDE news service had instead involved a Christian sign then "we would have never heard the end of how they're (Christians) picked on.

I have shown beyond any doubt that like events have occurred many times (regardless of the number) to Christian based signs, and that not only did we "not hear the end of it" we never heard about it at all. The only stories that could be found were local news blurbs, not WORLDWIDE news agency stories.


You're just making your point more irrelevant, so keep it up. And no it doesn't, because that's not how estimates work and your examples you posted debunks it anyway.

I don't really care how they take it, when I say I don't hate Christians, there's nothing else I can do...esp. when I have a whole family of them, friends and ex's. Anytime someone gives their opinion on here like that, which wasn't the least bit hateful and wasn't the least bit off base, you go spouting off about some "deep seeded hate"...never been right, isn't right now. Kind of laughable coming from you and your rants against muslims and islam.

No, because I'm not wrong, they obviously get reported on every time. You finally going to admit that? The atheist signs are much rarer and when the group had a national campaign to put them up in MAJOR CITIES that had already been picked up by national news. You contradict yourself, you stand by your "estimate" that it happens 50 times a day, then try to claim it's bias against Christianity that it's not picked up by national news 50 times a day. You said that we'd never hear about it period if it were a Christian sign, then post links to those incidents no ones heard of.


And mine where found where? Only one from CNN, the rest are blurbs/blog just like you posted, so I don't really know where you're getting that. Did you hear about this on CNN? I didn't, I read it online just like you probably did, the same internet where you got your stories. Moot point.